记一次愉快的受骗经历
这段话和本文无关,只是刚好有博客的机会,顺便发一下。前些天在我去北京出差的时候,同住的同事被决定直接借调至证监会。其直接愤怒了,未征求过他的意见就直接决定他的未来计划在他看来就是耍流氓,于是就借以需要谈恋爱,年纪已大的原因拖下来了,转身就在一家外行的量化部门找到新工作,工资翻一倍不止。为其高兴。心中想想却有些黯然,哥可没有这么牛逼的分量,说走就走啊。嗯,蛇有蛇路,鼠有鼠道。
华丽丽的分割线。开始正文了。先说结果,我没有被骗,各位不用太担心,写博客说此事,只是觉得比较匪夷所思,挺有意思的,记下来,权当人生一次经历。骗子是个英国人,可能不大了解中国国情,我们对一切能够从天上掉馅饼的事情都抱有一种怀疑的态度。这也就从一开始就为这场持续了三天的异国之间的交流定下了交流的基调。挺有趣的。
话说几个礼拜以前,我在lbc上开辟了一个新战场,做比特币的场外交易,模式也简单,诚如淘宝:当我想要卖出的时候,我选择那些愿意买入币的广告,点击交易后,我的币就会被网站锁定,并通知卖家付款。根据我自身的需求,我选择特定付款方式的交易广告。这是利润很丰厚的,场外交易价格是市场价格溢价的5%。当我认识到这点的时候,我觉得自己真厉害,又发现了一个新蓝海。不过,多疑的性格就是又让我发问,为何这些人不自己去买币,而要从我这儿买。结果发现,比如美国人民,他们只能从coinbase买币,由于监管的关系,他们根本无法将钱成功汇入bitstamp、火币、bitfinex等交易所,而在coinbase交易完全非匿名,有些人为了将身份隐 藏起来,也就愿意支付一定程度的溢价;再加上网站只锁定了币,并未锁定钱款的流向,这也产生了一定的风险,这也贡献了一定的程度的溢价。我当初在美国旅游时办好的美银卡这时候就派上了用场,华丽丽的我选择了cash deposit。我要卖,然后锁定币,等对方把钱打给我。我以为我会碰上几个耍赖的,事实证明,只要挑评价好的,有信任的,交易做起来真的是连话都不用多说。在某个礼拜五,我做了12000刀的交易,净利润3600元。这只是一天的交易,事实上,我可以天天做这么多的交易,甚至更多,如果美国没有FBI、或者是繁琐的银行监管制度、反洗钱制度的话。所以我也只做了一天,挣了一些,我也开心,买菜钱,不用花太多心思,也不用担心突然一下子你的银行户口被冻结,我还要专程飞一趟美国等等。
一日,我在lbc上游荡。碰到一哥们,愿意比市价高10%的价格来购买比特币。我基本上知道这算是骗子了,但是也不想失去这么个机会,说不定要真是了,我也就踏上了我的致富之路。是的,不去试肯定没有机会,试了才知道有没有机会。于是我联系了他的whatsapp,结果比我想象的还好,他说他是代理一个大客户购买比特币,愿意以高出市价25%的价格收购大量比特币,这事放到以前没人信,但是FBI拍卖3万个币时,Tim Draper出价700多刀买入了当时市价500多刀的比特币的事件仍历历在目,击败了我等屌丝散户凑钱搞出的404刀的offer,(哈哈,现在价格还到了390刀了,真遂了我们愿的同时也大杀了行业的士气),我不由得不相信这种事情发生的些许可能性。不过,当对方说要绕过lbc的escrow service,直接让我把币打入他指定的地址时,我心中万马奔腾,哥们真当我是白痴啊。我真打算将其拉入黑名单时,丫给我看了他的钱包截图。
信誓旦旦地称呼说,他的客户希望收购到比特币总量的0.2%,又勾起了我的兴趣。嗯,他还补充说他是lbc的pro trader,评价100%杠杠的,呵呵,我只想你丫太天真了,不知道有中国人,更无论大淘宝吗?这东西拍的不清楚,那么模糊,已经90%以上肯定是骗子了。怀着还是想将生意做到底的心思,我对这个图片进行了一些研究。没错,我看到这些数量,我还真想知道这两钱包的地址。你还别说,真给我找到了。基本上有这么大量的币的钱包,应该已经算是世界前位的钱包了,根据数量找其实很简单,找top 100 wallets即可。根据对应的数量,我找到了两个地址:14S6kiHzVNcSCA9TCiPaEGJfSiP1HHokEd、1QB8Ds5KbGYBLQa5RyDQ2sVUeSKWf7qgkZ。这两个地址在骗子和我联系的时点对应的币数和截图是一模一样的,由不得我不信。
当然,为了交易达成和将我的风险控制到最小,我向对方提了三个方案:一、我飞到英国去;二、我找个英国律师做中间人;三、还是在lbc上交易,我补差价并给他回扣。(嗯,写到这,越想这哥们越是个骗子,我是个傻子还和他交流了3天)为了证实他确实有诚意,我在未向其透露我已找到其钱包地址的前提下,要求他在两个钱包之间做一笔小额转账以证明对钱包有控制权,我实在太聪明了,他转了,给我看截图,我一查,根本就不是我查到的地址,无疑,有鬼。我指出了这个错误后,丫还不信,我在很有礼貌地向其建议说要好好研究一下中本聪的比特币白皮书后,就跟其拜拜了。
恩,他和中国的骗子比起来,唉,实在太不专业了。说到骗子,哈哈,今早还接到电话说,小林吗?你明早来我办公室一下,我说好。就把电话放下了,遥听到他说你知道我办公室在哪吗?说了三遍,真是一个很好的开胃菜,哈哈。
节前和胡总、翔总去了趟五台山,感觉时间都花在了路上了。
夫人这张是在去横沙岛轮渡上拍的,不错吧。
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第二次受骗,还是关于场外的
关于Heinrich Vollmer
- 他的twitter介绍
- 这是他现在这个时点的一个广告![这是他现在这个时点的一个广告](./Screenshot 2014-10-07 11.21.44.png)
- 他的规则
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他给我回复的邮件
Hi,
thank you for reaching out.
If you were looking for safe method to sell you bitcoins, you arrived at the right place. I am stocking up coins acting as a Private Professional OTC broker / trader
Let me quick explain why I prefer OTC over top exchanges, or JUST SCROLL DOWN to see how the trading process works for you:
WHY OTC TRADING ?
The main goal is to avoid to have the coins dispersed into the market. It’s to move it between one seller who has decided to sell, to ideally one buyer who would like to get in to hold. That reduces volatility.
It isn't a secret that trading volumes have shrunk, wealthy traders are getting more and more educated, and big trades are increasingly done over the counter. That certainly offers advantages over placing an order on an exchange.
Traders want to protect their capital from the effects of price slippage. When a seller is trying to put a block trade through without having enough takers at a certain price level, price keeps dropping as bids keep getting lower.
Additionally, some Traders are always in a waiting position with ‘false’ orders on the exchange, to feel for large blocks coming to market.
At the very moment when some 'false' orders are filled, big traders sensing that a big block is being traded, cancel the rest of their original orders and rapidly place new orders at lower prices.
Privacy and speed are certainly other advantages that OTC trades offer. Sellers being in a hurry and in need of USD EUR GBP etc. can turn to me (an OTC broker).
The same you can say for investors who prefer not to entrust their trading data with a large exchange.
They want to avoid being traceable. They don't want to have their ID documents falling into the wrong hands. You never know who acquires whom, or what hackers might do with successfully stolen records (ID theft).
So somehow OTC traders appear to believe that they enjoy a greater degree of privacy with us brokers, they somehow trust us more than the top exchanges.
The problem with OTC trading is that they are private, and people might think there is some kind of manipulation going on.
But in these markets today, there is less and less volume. Look at the equity markets. Institutions trade with each other and are taking trades offline.
So as bitcoin markets continue to mature, it's obvious to me that OTC trading is here to stay.
HOW EASY IT WORKS:
Here is a live trade example of a 25 btc / USD trade:
Sell your #BTC for USD
Bitcoin Volume= 25
btcavg rate= $337.00
I PAY YOU $363.96 (+8%)
you receive= $9,099 in your bank account
your profit= $674 compared to a trade on an ordinary exchange
LIMITS
min per trade = 10 BTC
max per trade = 300BTC, can be upped to 5k bitcoin / trade (according to growing demand and supply)
Multiple sellers may join coins to match entry limits. I act as an Escrow (no fees) and will split wires to each participant of joined parties (no fees)
Important to point out: I trade P2P only, with NO 3rd party accepted.
This is to maintain the highest level on privacy, transaction speed and customer support. Clients do appreciate that.
TYPCIAL TRADE
A typical trade goes like this:
-client comes in with a request to have me buy his coins
-If he agrees upon my quote, he emails his payment details ( fiat currency, bank account, bank address, valid receiver name, email address )
-I provide an ETA to when he can expect the monies arriving in his bank account
( sending from/to the very same (larger) bank/branch takes seconds to 2-4 hours, sending to smaller local banks may take much longer )
( I've got a setup a growing number of accounts at important banks working at most important jurisdictions )
-I hand over a new created btc address
-Seller sends bitcoin first (!) not negotiable
-When we see 3 confirmations on the blockchain ( usually after 30 minutes ), I press the button and the wires goes out.
-Client immediately receives a copy of that transfer. In case of joined parties each one recieves a copy of the relevant wire
-Client confirms upon arrival of funds in his account.
( For me, often enough not hearing a complaint from client equals to confirmation that all went well :)
I have included the current 8% incentive to attract new audiences to turn to trade OTC with me.
If a growing number of OTC Brokers is willing to pay prices on top of those current relatively low market prices,
we decrease selling pressure on exchanges and prevent the price from dropping further. That reduces volatility.
This may create a strong resistance at the current price level, from where we may see prices heading north in a not to far future.
WHATs NEXT?
If you like the offer, please reply with:
- your bank account / payment details
- receiver name spelled exactly as your bank knows it
- btc volumen (How many btc are you going to sell)
I will reply with your btc address.
After I have seen 3 confirmations on the blockchain,
I will immediately initiate the wire transfer to your bank account
Thank you for considering me as the broker of your choice.
For any ( really any) question get back to me. I'd be happy to answer them.
Kind regards,
Heinrich Vollmer
PS:
You can reach me best on Twitter or via email. I usually respond fast.
For clients / partners / affiliates I offer a 24/7 secure end to end encrypted chat via 'surespot' app. (surespot.me)
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Date: 07.10.2014 05:14:57
To: "btcmarketmaker"[email protected]
Subject: bicoint selling enquiry
hi, I want to do the trade with you, can you email me the details on how to do this. thank you, Dr. Vollmer.